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Tweeting to the choir: a collection of tweets
Janet@Mystagogy1013: Tweeting to the choir gives all of us much-needed support and encouragement these days.
This particular particular post is the offspring of this larger post with a more specific purpose in mind from a topic listed in this larger post. He is also just one of many children of this position. You can go big or go home to this shorter post and pick what you need from the collected treasure of the Large choir of Catholic thinkers and like-minded people and insert it into whatever you’re working on right now. Or maybe you just want to read a short something that will put a chuckle, a prayer, or a nifty thought in your brain. And maybe any truth, beauty or goodness can seep into your soul, making you a more loving, faithful and hopeful person and bringing you closer to Christ.
In this post, we tweeted at the choir about…
First things to note
TheAmishCatholic@AmishCatholic: The truth of the Gospel does not depend on whether the Blood of San Germano liquefies, whether Our Lady appeared to Ugandan schoolgirls, or whether the Divine Mercy was a real revelation for Faustina Kowalska. We can believe in all these things (I believe in some of them), but it is downright secondary. Also, it seems to me that one should not confuse apparitions and private revelations with miracles, which at least seem to wait for a kind of empirical verification. It is not necessary to go far the other way and demystify cherished devotions, but it is actually very important not to confuse these devotions with public revelation.
Chezami@chezami: The first thing that is vital to understand is that the Church is not bound by private revelation. It is only bound by public revelation, which ended with the death of the apostles.
Thus, the pope does not * * have to do anything that a public revelation says to do, even if the Church deems that private revelation worthy of belief. We could go as far as the apocalypse without the Holy Father having consecrated Russia to Mary and he would be absolutely within his right and in fidelity to the duties of his office to do so. If you don’t know this, you don’t understand the Faith you claim to uphold. Mary is not a super-pope and she does not govern the Church. Peter does.
It is his call to consecrate Russia or not and it is his call to say whether or not this consecration was carried out on March 25, 1984.
It was.
So every reactionary popinjay who says otherwise and foments conspiracy theories about the Church about it is acting as an enemy of the Church, not a follower. The Message of Fatima (vatican.va)
So the pope does *not* have to do anything a *private* revelation says to do. (Ooh!)
The consecration that worked
Prof. Matthew Schneider@FrMatthewLC: When Sr. Lucia said that JP2 consecrated Russia and an overwhelming amount of evidence supports it, we can say that Russia was properly consecrated.
To claim otherwise, you have to twist a very complex web that is so astronomically improbable that it is functionally impossible.
Alex@Alex11583274: Wasn’t Russia already consecrated to the Virgin Mary, I thought it was one of the requests/revelations of Fatima?
Anonymous Carmelite: Yes it was. The consecrations can however be renewed. Many people make their consecration to Jesus through Mary each year.
Who can say that Our Lady was not happy with the last one? I am now fed up with all these Twitter users who undermine Sister Lucy and claim to know more than the very person who was actually a Fatima seer who said Our Lady’s request was already granted.
Prof. Tom Bombadil@calix517: Yeah, I agree with Sr. Lucia and the official Vatican statement that the consecration was already accomplished. But that makes it super clear to everyone, especially the scrupulous. Part of me is just surprised that this actually happened with an explicit naming of Russia.
What is consecration supposed to do?
Prof. Dwight Longenecker@dlongenecker1: I expect someone to say “You are still a Protestant Father…” but I would really like to know what the Pope’s consecration is supposed to do if it “works”. What is the expectation? The conversion of Russia? Didn’t this already happen with the fall of communism?
And if it wasn’t
Emily, praying for peace ���@EmilyKath319: Has anyone considered…even if it doesn’t meet the specific requirements of Our Lady of Fatima, it’s still an objective *good* thing for Russia and Ukraine to be consecrated to her Heart Immaculate (if we believe consecration is somehow effective) ???
The Consecration Plot
Mister Automatic@DJMrAutomatic: The Fatima “consecrate Russia” conspiracy theory is a great example of the kind of thing that allowed anti-vax and Qanon conspiracies to thrive in church communities. Faith without reason quickly leads to the darkness of superstition and fear. I will expand on my Fatima statement. Since my childhood, I have seen Catholics waiting for Fatima to apply for anything from the Cold War to present-day Ukraine. Human beings look for patterns in everything, and the desire to be aware of special information is a powerful instinct.
Classical Theist ✠@ClassicalTheis: “unless Pope Francis does the consecration to Russia with all the bishops in the world swinging a glass of chocolate milk over his head while singing the bikini bottom national anthem, doesn’t that count?”
Mary Pezzulo@mary_pezzulo: Wait until the Fatima crowd discovers that Mary was speaking in Portuguese and not ecclesiastical Latin when she asked for a consecration.
We are FAAAATIMAAAAANIACS!
We are unable to relax!
These candles must be wax
And you better pray and fast
We are Fatimanes!
Consecration =/= Conversion
Catholic Joe@catholicjose: Consecration =/= Conversion
I see too many people confuse these two bcuz “Russia was not properly consecrated”.
First, you need to know more about the history of Fatima, Sr Lucy, St JPII, Pope Pius XII and the Soviet Union. You will see Russia consecrated
Second, consecration DOES NOT equal conversion. Consecration must be set apart by God. Conversion works on God’s prompting of His Holy Spirit. An example, at birth I was consecrated and baptized to our Lord. I lived a VERY sinful lifestyle until I was converted 12 years ago. Look at the difference?
So please understand and don’t believe everything you see on a stupid website.
Peace ✌️
Treatment of apparitions
Henry Karlson@HenryKarlsonIII: As St. John of the Cross and Rahner pointed out, even if you have authentic locutions and apparitions, it does not mean that you understand them correctly, and our reception may be influenced by our own minds. This is why those who are so literal with the appearances go astray. Their value is not really words, but grace; words can be twisted by us, but grace is beyond us. This is also why some may be great holy saints, have had some sort of experience of appearing, and yet be wrong in what they say (eg children).
The grace was real, but their minds only understood the experience in a very narrow and imperfect way.
Spawn rule
Greg7190@greg7190: I think this rule should apply to apparitions – unless it contributes to the growth of gospel values, following Jesus and faith, hope and charity, it can be ignored in safe (especially if she has nonsense about the end of the world).
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